F&G Abuse

We are getting really tired of the anti-gun activists at the New Hampshire Fish and Game Commission opposing good, solid pro-gun reform bills.   On the Departments web page it says: “Guardian of the state’s fish, wildlife, and marine resources.”

We here at NHFC  just don’t understand how engaging in anti-gun activism helps to guard the state’s fish, wildlife and marine resources.

When we were trying to make Constitutional Carry the law in New Hampshire, the anti-gun activists on the New Hampshire Fish and Game Commission unanimously opposed SB 12.  You can click here to read the meeting minutes.   Please read the January 11, 2017 meeting minutes and you will see that anti-gun Commissioner Walter Morse, (who we are told is involved with the management of Morse Sporting Goods in Hillsborough) made the motion to not only oppose SB 12, but to also oppose HB 84 which would allow you to carry a loaded rifle or shotgun in a car.  A possessory only gun offense. This means the mere possession of a loaded rifle or shotgun is a crime without the owner doing anything else.

HB 84 was amended into a very weak bill that only allows loaded rifles and shotguns in campers under very narrow circumstances.  We are insisting that HB 84 be amended BACK to its original intent, which was to decriminalize the possession of loaded rifles and shotguns.

Law abiding people should not face criminal prosecution for merely possessing a loaded rifle or shotgun in a motor vehicle.  In New Hampshire the police (including Conservation Officers) are required to obtain a search warrant to search a car.  Just like a home.  Since the right to privacy exists in a car like a home, law abiding people should be allowed to carry loaded rifles and shotguns in cars.

Don’t be fooled by the lies being told by the anti-gun activists at the Fish and Game Department, this is not a hunting issue, this is purely a Second Amendment issue.  It is vital that we decriminalize the possession of certain firearms at certain time.  Hunting is not mentioned in the US or New Hampshire Constitutions.

Certain New Hampshire Fish and Game Conservation Officers are reported to be abusive, disrespectful of individual rights, and downright anti-gun.  They have engaged in entrapment and intimidation.   NHFC leadership was horrified when we saw some of the blatant Fourth and Fifth Amendment violations displayed on the TV show North Woods Law: New Hampshire.  Hunters forced to walk a Conservation Officer around a kill site and answer questions, only to get summonsed anyway.    Maybe being a little to close to the road or to close to building even though no one was harmed?  I have been credibly informed that most Conservation Officers cannot prove such cases without an admission (that means YOU showing or TELLING the Conservation Officer what you did); Conservation Officers rarely, if at all, read people their Miranda rights so the average person has no idea that their honesty with a Conservation Officer will earn them a trip to court, or loss of their hunting rights.  Never, ever, lie, but remember, you cannot be forced to talk. Silence is golden!

It is important to understand that there are 2 types of laws.  Those that are Malum in se which means an act that is evil and wrong in and of itself.  Murder, rape and assault are all Malum in seBut then there are laws that are Malum prohibitum.  These are things that are unlawful because a legislator or bureaucrat says they are.  Things like carrying a loaded rifle or shotgun in your car or shooting wild game when you are to close to the road or a building even if you are facing away from the building.  These are victimless crimes.  These are the type of laws which are ruthlessly enforced by the anti-gun Conservation Officers of the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department.  Remember, we are discussing dead animals, not dead humans even though the Conservation Officers act as if the wild game animals have the same civil rights as humans.  This, while they violate your civil rights.

Below, we have printed reports from NHFC Members and Supporters about their encounters with these, abusive heavy handed Conservation Officers:

An NHFC Member sent us the following report:

“About 20 years ago, I was ‘way up north’.
Me and a friend were deer hunting in pouring rain storm. We were parked, 100 yards off the highway, on land owned by my brother. Our wives, were inside a travel trailer, that was ‘jacked up’ on ‘levelers, and my truck was still attached to the tow hitch. At around 10 AM, we decided to stop hunting, because the rain was too heavy. I opened the door of my truck, laid my rifle (loaded) on the seat, took my revolver from the holster I was wearing, unloaded the revolver, and began wiping off the rain water. The truck door was open, I was sitting on the seat, with my feet ON THE GROUND. I heard the noise of a vehicle slowing down on the road. I looked and saw it was a Fish & Game truck, it went past the ‘opening’we were in, stopped (‘screeeeech’) slowly backed up, started driving in, over the bumpy terrain. Pulled up next to me. Asked:”did ya get anything?”, . .See anyone else, out there?”.  Got out of his truck and walked around to my side. He could see me plainly cleaning my unloaded revolver, said “Nice rifle there on your seat, can I see it?”

I handed it to him, he jacked open the lever and announced, “it’s loaded” “A loaded firearm in a motor vehicle is a crime”. I told him, I am parked on private property, door open, my feet on the ground, attached to a camper, the keys are in the camper, and we are NOT driving down the road’! I had at least 2 minutes for me to unload the gun, from the time I saw you, and knew who you were, until you pulled up next to me. If I thought I was doing something wrong, I had MORE than ‘enough time’ to unload it!”.

A: “Does not make a difference, I am giving you a $100 fine, you can pay the fine, right now, but still have the right to show up at a ‘hearing’ in court, 3 days from now, or I can arrest you, and take you to court, right now!”

I told him that: If that is what the law says, the law is wrong. If YOU are making YOUR interpretation’, then you are extorting $$$$$ from me.
His answer: Your choice, what ya gonna do, I am too busy to be a Judge, right now.”  I had enough cash. Paid him. I do not know if he ‘pocketed the cash and ripped up the ticket but, there is “NO RECORD OF ME BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME !

Another person sent in this note:

HI,  I THINK PART OF THE FISH AND GAME PROBLEM OF RAISING ENOUGH FUNDS FROM LICENSING IS THAT PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO HARASSED CONSERVATION OFFICERS OVER ZEALOUS NEST TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT BY FINING PEOPLE TRYING TO ACT RESPONSIBLY WERE THERE IS NO CONSIDERATION OF THE SITUATION . THAT IS MY REASON FOR NOT BUYING LICENSES TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE FISH AND GAME DEPARTMENT , IT IS VERY COMPLEX ED TO WORK WITH FISH AND GAME LAWS.  THERE FIREARM STANCE IS PART THAT THEY WANT THE WOODS AND WATER BODIES  TO THEM SELF., AND LAWS THEY CAN IN FORCE IS TO WIDE.

And someone else said this:

Thanks for the update. Don’t forget the bob cat leg hold trapping fiasco. Cats are just making a come back. I just sent Sununu a letter referring to that mess as well as Patch ani gun. Told them to send him back to Mass or NY

And somebody, who also wishes to remain anonymous called me and said:

“Fish and Game is the only department that issues a permit or license to engage in an activity and then, immediately looks for ways to fine you and take away your license.  Look at the TV show Northwoods Law New Hampshire, they comb through game registration forms and allege violations.  In Marlboro they forced a young hunter to take them to the kill site because they allege he was hunting over bait.  And in Chichester they forced an elderly hunter to admit to shooting a turkey just a little to close to the road. So what, who was harmed? “

Editors note: The Marlboro hunter was cleared of wrongdoing.  This does not excuse Fish and Games accusatory attitude.

Revenues from hunting licenses have been declining in recent years.  Instead of looking within to determine why, the Department simply raised the price of a license.  Only to see further declines in revenues.  A better model would be to see why their customers are going to neighboring states.  Then, lower the price of a license to increases sales and revenues.